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		<title>By: 33breeze</title>
		<link>http://www.aesopian.com/92/the-jiu-jiteiros-christmas-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>33breeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question about your personal review on these books:

1) Ultimate Fighting Techniques (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu series) (Paperback) 
by Royce Gracie

2) Ultimate Fighting Techniques Volume 2: Fighting from the Bottom (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu series) (Paperback) 
by Royce Gracie

3)Gracie Submission Essentials: Grandmaster and Master Secrets of Finishing a Fight (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu series) (Paperback) 
by Helio Gracie

4)Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Submission Grappling Techniques (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu series) (Paperback) 
by Royler Gracie

Can you let me know your opinions on each or if there are better books than these? or if you have time give a review? thanks in advance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about your personal review on these books:</p>
<p>1) Ultimate Fighting Techniques (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu series) (Paperback) <br />
by Royce Gracie</p>
<p>2) Ultimate Fighting Techniques Volume 2: Fighting from the Bottom (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu series) (Paperback) <br />
by Royce Gracie</p>
<p>3)Gracie Submission Essentials: Grandmaster and Master Secrets of Finishing a Fight (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu series) (Paperback) <br />
by Helio Gracie</p>
<p>4)Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Submission Grappling Techniques (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu series) (Paperback) <br />
by Royler Gracie</p>
<p>Can you let me know your opinions on each or if there are better books than these? or if you have time give a review? thanks in advance</p>
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		<title>By: OldDog53</title>
		<link>http://www.aesopian.com/92/the-jiu-jiteiros-christmas-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>OldDog53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got Mastering Jiu Jitsu, which you recommended in a comment above, and find it very interesting. It seems to be basically all the stuff our instructor should tell us by way of background, except we are all too busy having a good time rolling. :-)

Have you considered updating the main article in this topic to include a review of MJJ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got Mastering Jiu Jitsu, which you recommended in a comment above, and find it very interesting. It seems to be basically all the stuff our instructor should tell us by way of background, except we are all too busy having a good time rolling. :-)</p>
<p>Have you considered updating the main article in this topic to include a review of MJJ?</p>
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		<title>By: Aesopian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aesopian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;/100/guerilla-jiu-jitsu-vs-judo-unleashed/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You&#039;ve got your head-to-head judo book review here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="/100/guerilla-jiu-jitsu-vs-judo-unleashed/" rel="nofollow">You&#8217;ve got your head-to-head judo book review here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: OldDog53</title>
		<link>http://www.aesopian.com/92/the-jiu-jiteiros-christmas-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>OldDog53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garbanzo Bean said:

&quot;The correct term is jiu-jiteiro. It’s the Brazilian term for someone who does BJJ, i.e. someone that wrestles is a wrestler.&quot;

Thanks, G.B. I didn&#039;t realize it was an actual Brazilian term...good to know....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garbanzo Bean said:</p>
<p>&#8220;The correct term is jiu-jiteiro. It’s the Brazilian term for someone who does BJJ, i.e. someone that wrestles is a wrestler.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks, G.B. I didn&#8217;t realize it was an actual Brazilian term&#8230;good to know&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Aesopian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aesopian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0736044043?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=aesostotaawes-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0736044043&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mastering Jujitsu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=aesostotaawes-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0736044043&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt; by Renzo Gracie is a great book for beginners. I lost my copy since by lending it to a white belt who never returned. It is more of a MMA fundamentals book, covering stand up, clich and ground, but the emphasis is on grappling.

What I like about it for beginners is that is has a greater emphasis on explaining the theory and strategy of each range and position, using basic techniques to illustrate each. There is less chance of white belts getting technique overload and doing goofy moves out of books.

The section on the history of BJJ (also covering JJJ and judo) is the best I&#039;ve read thus far, and it also has an excellent essay on self defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0736044043?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=aesostotaawes-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325&#38;creativeASIN=0736044043" rel="nofollow">Mastering Jujitsu</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=aesostotaawes-20&#38;l=as2&#38;o=1&#38;a=0736044043" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> by Renzo Gracie is a great book for beginners. I lost my copy since by lending it to a white belt who never returned. It is more of a MMA fundamentals book, covering stand up, clich and ground, but the emphasis is on grappling.</p>
<p>What I like about it for beginners is that is has a greater emphasis on explaining the theory and strategy of each range and position, using basic techniques to illustrate each. There is less chance of white belts getting technique overload and doing goofy moves out of books.</p>
<p>The section on the history of BJJ (also covering JJJ and judo) is the best I&#8217;ve read thus far, and it also has an excellent essay on self defense.</p>
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		<title>By: slideyfoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>slideyfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 07:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume all of those are intended for intermediate to advanced students, so are there any books you&#039;d recommend for a beginner? Or are BJJ books in general something to be avoided until later in training? &#039;Mastering Jujitsu&#039; looked interesting, but I&#039;m not sure if thats an introductory text or not - I&#039;d quite like a book that went through the history of BJJ too, which is another reason that one appealed to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume all of those are intended for intermediate to advanced students, so are there any books you&#8217;d recommend for a beginner? Or are BJJ books in general something to be avoided until later in training? &#8216;Mastering Jujitsu&#8217; looked interesting, but I&#8217;m not sure if thats an introductory text or not &#8211; I&#8217;d quite like a book that went through the history of BJJ too, which is another reason that one appealed to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Garbanzo Bean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garbanzo Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 01:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The correct term is jiu-jiteiro.  It&#039;s the Brazilian term for someone who does BJJ, i.e. someone that wrestles is a wrestler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The correct term is jiu-jiteiro.  It&#8217;s the Brazilian term for someone who does BJJ, i.e. someone that wrestles is a wrestler.</p>
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		<title>By: OldDog53</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldDog53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aesopian said:

&quot;I’ll do a head-to-head comparison if you get me a copy.&quot;

Didn&#039;t see an option for using my Amazon account to send you a copy, so I am Donating $16 to your account now via PayPal (which works pretty well). That will cover the price of the book plus all or some shipping - or you can find another book to get the total up to $25 and get free shipping.

Will look forward to your review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aesopian said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I’ll do a head-to-head comparison if you get me a copy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t see an option for using my Amazon account to send you a copy, so I am Donating $16 to your account now via PayPal (which works pretty well). That will cover the price of the book plus all or some shipping &#8211; or you can find another book to get the total up to $25 and get free shipping.</p>
<p>Will look forward to your review.</p>
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		<title>By: Aesopian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aesopian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll do a head-to-head comparison if you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/2PY338BAYBG8F/ref=wl_web/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;get me a copy&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll do a head-to-head comparison if you <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/2PY338BAYBG8F/ref=wl_web/" rel="nofollow">get me a copy</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: OldDog53</title>
		<link>http://www.aesopian.com/92/the-jiu-jiteiros-christmas-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>OldDog53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 16:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aesopian asked:

&quot;What disappointed you about Guerrilla Jiu-Jitsu, and secondly, how do you even have enough experience to tell if you should be disappointed or not?&quot;

Imagine if Bravo&#039;s books, Jiu Jitsu Unleashed and Mastering Rubber Guard, were principally a manifesto on the need to throw off the gi and introduce wrestling moves into bjj rather than (at least in the case of MRG) being complete tutorials...that&#039;s a little of how Guerilla Jiu Jitsu strikes me - more of a cry to reintroduce standup judo throws into bjj than anything else. Not that this is bad - I totally support Camarillo in that respect. Judo could use more newaza and bjj could use more tachiwaza. But how much does Guerilla Jiu Jitsu actually help us do that? (Bravo&#039;s books DO help us learn his &quot;game&quot;.) In this respect I think Guerilla Jiu Jitsu is &quot;light&quot; compared to Neal Ohlencamp&#039;s Judo Unleashed book which I&#039;ll bet you another $10 contribution to your blog expenses you&#039;ll like better than Guerilla Jiu Jitsu if you take a look at it. The other major point that, imho, Camarillo makes is that the judoka/jiu jitsero (I like your term) should &quot;land in the application&quot; ready to submit or take a superior position but - does that point by itself justify the book? To me Guerilla Jiu Jitsu is like cotton candy, great fun but gone in minutes.

Even on a superficial level, there are very few pictures per page in Guerilla Jiu Jitsu. So the sequence of moves is naturally left much more to your imagination.

In one respect Guerilla Jiu Jitsu is &quot;must have,&quot; albeit for pretty advanced practitioners (purple or above?), and that is for the chapter on Flying Arm Locks. Clearly Camarillo has excelled at this move, which he says has been neglected (too easy to counter?) until he perfected it.

With respect to your query &quot;do I have enough experience to tell if [I] should be disappointed or not&quot; I&#039;d say the answer to that question is obvious - yes and no.

My comment was addressed to the quality of the book, not to the quality of the techniques. I&#039;m very impressed, for example, with the quality of Neil Ohlenkamp&#039;s Judo Unleashed book and with Eddie Bravo&#039;s Mastering Rubber Guard - but an experienced judoka might find fault or argue alternatives on Judo Unleashed, and clearly a lot of people who are more advanced than me feel that Rubber Guard is easy to stack or pass - but basically I think you&#039;ll agree with me that it&#039;s not hard for even a newbie to tell that both Ohlenkamp&#039;s and Eddie&#039;s books are well organized, compelling, and detailed. So no, I don&#039;t have enough experience to say that &quot;this technique is a winner, that&#039;s a loser, this one you have to modify&quot; but for heaven&#039;s sake, I do have enough experience to comment on the quality of the book as an instructional.

OK, here&#039;s my bet/bargain. Setting aside flying armlocks, once you get a chance to read/review Ohlenkamp&#039;s Judo Unleashed, just answer one question for me: which book, Guerilla Jiu Jitsu or Judo Unleashed, would you recommend to a jiu jitsero seeking to add some standup judo moves to their game? If you still think GJJ, I&#039;ll make the donation. If you think Judo Unleashed, then I&#039;d like you to consider defending my interest in, and studying, MRG on my training blog...both from the standpoint of adding to my gi game and from the standpoint of starting to learn how to roll gi-less.

BTW, I had a lot of lockdowns thrown AT me last night by a blue belt, so it looks like even in my &quot;traditional&quot; academy Lockdown is getting assimilated....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aesopian asked:</p>
<p>&#8220;What disappointed you about Guerrilla Jiu-Jitsu, and secondly, how do you even have enough experience to tell if you should be disappointed or not?&#8221;</p>
<p>Imagine if Bravo&#8217;s books, Jiu Jitsu Unleashed and Mastering Rubber Guard, were principally a manifesto on the need to throw off the gi and introduce wrestling moves into bjj rather than (at least in the case of MRG) being complete tutorials&#8230;that&#8217;s a little of how Guerilla Jiu Jitsu strikes me &#8211; more of a cry to reintroduce standup judo throws into bjj than anything else. Not that this is bad &#8211; I totally support Camarillo in that respect. Judo could use more newaza and bjj could use more tachiwaza. But how much does Guerilla Jiu Jitsu actually help us do that? (Bravo&#8217;s books DO help us learn his &#8220;game&#8221;.) In this respect I think Guerilla Jiu Jitsu is &#8220;light&#8221; compared to Neal Ohlencamp&#8217;s Judo Unleashed book which I&#8217;ll bet you another $10 contribution to your blog expenses you&#8217;ll like better than Guerilla Jiu Jitsu if you take a look at it. The other major point that, imho, Camarillo makes is that the judoka/jiu jitsero (I like your term) should &#8220;land in the application&#8221; ready to submit or take a superior position but &#8211; does that point by itself justify the book? To me Guerilla Jiu Jitsu is like cotton candy, great fun but gone in minutes.</p>
<p>Even on a superficial level, there are very few pictures per page in Guerilla Jiu Jitsu. So the sequence of moves is naturally left much more to your imagination.</p>
<p>In one respect Guerilla Jiu Jitsu is &#8220;must have,&#8221; albeit for pretty advanced practitioners (purple or above?), and that is for the chapter on Flying Arm Locks. Clearly Camarillo has excelled at this move, which he says has been neglected (too easy to counter?) until he perfected it.</p>
<p>With respect to your query &#8220;do I have enough experience to tell if [I] should be disappointed or not&#8221; I&#8217;d say the answer to that question is obvious &#8211; yes and no.</p>
<p>My comment was addressed to the quality of the book, not to the quality of the techniques. I&#8217;m very impressed, for example, with the quality of Neil Ohlenkamp&#8217;s Judo Unleashed book and with Eddie Bravo&#8217;s Mastering Rubber Guard &#8211; but an experienced judoka might find fault or argue alternatives on Judo Unleashed, and clearly a lot of people who are more advanced than me feel that Rubber Guard is easy to stack or pass &#8211; but basically I think you&#8217;ll agree with me that it&#8217;s not hard for even a newbie to tell that both Ohlenkamp&#8217;s and Eddie&#8217;s books are well organized, compelling, and detailed. So no, I don&#8217;t have enough experience to say that &#8220;this technique is a winner, that&#8217;s a loser, this one you have to modify&#8221; but for heaven&#8217;s sake, I do have enough experience to comment on the quality of the book as an instructional.</p>
<p>OK, here&#8217;s my bet/bargain. Setting aside flying armlocks, once you get a chance to read/review Ohlenkamp&#8217;s Judo Unleashed, just answer one question for me: which book, Guerilla Jiu Jitsu or Judo Unleashed, would you recommend to a jiu jitsero seeking to add some standup judo moves to their game? If you still think GJJ, I&#8217;ll make the donation. If you think Judo Unleashed, then I&#8217;d like you to consider defending my interest in, and studying, MRG on my training blog&#8230;both from the standpoint of adding to my gi game and from the standpoint of starting to learn how to roll gi-less.</p>
<p>BTW, I had a lot of lockdowns thrown AT me last night by a blue belt, so it looks like even in my &#8220;traditional&#8221; academy Lockdown is getting assimilated&#8230;.</p>
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