Comments on: Bad Half Butterfly Guard (Pass Prevention)

By: zankou

zankou — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:28:51 +0000

My thoughts, for what it’s worth:

I prefer to push the head a lot earlier. If you wait until his head is across your body, it is too difficult to try to re-cross it and take the crucifix. Head should be pushed before it crosses, while you are both parallel. Start by pushing the head and going to crucifix, and it works better.

If your opponent does get his head across your body, that is a great opportunity to go for the reverse triangle, rather than crucifix. Anytime his arm is between your legs from side control, he is open for a reverse triangle, and never more than when he is just passing.

Finally, I enjoy hitting the switch as a counter in this half butterfly situation. It takes a bit of experimentation to get it to work, but it is an unusual and effective counter for any “low” guard passes, IMHO.

By: KO-gee

KO-gee — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:15:22 +0000

Nice! I’ve been looking for some good guard returns from this position.

Thanks for sharing.

By: Razamataz

Razamataz — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:43:34 +0000

But Aesopian, I use the ‘bad’ half butterfly guard to sweep people all the time. What’s wrong with that? I’ll admit to having tried to do the stupid triangle attempt with one trapped leg before, but I’ve learned my lesson.

By: sha

sha — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:33:39 +0000

Good moves. One thing that I’m working on in this situation is to attack the arm closer to your head with a kimura/armbar, like here at 3:31:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xj371_shogun-vs-nogueira_sport

But when I do this pass I usually try to keep both arms outside so I’m safe from the triangle, which also negates some of your counters.

By: codemonkey76

codemonkey76 — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:02:27 +0000

i really like the crucifix option, i have ended their by accident, but now am going to consciously do it and see what success i get.